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Trying out this time lapse thing. (10 posts)

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  • Avatar Image 8thSamurai said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    This is a particularly long time lapse, squelching about nine hours of a day into less than a minute of screen time. I do plan on trying others.

    For this particular one there were some specific challenges.

    One – how many frames did we need? There wasn’t a whole lot of concrete information to go with. I didn’t know how long the work day for the subjects was going to be, nor how long the client wanted the final video. Estimating a dawn till dusk day, and shooting for about a minute of footage. The day was a bit shorter, which accounts for the missing five seconds of final footage.

    Since the space of time was outdoors for nine hours, the light source changes position, intensity, and color temperature – which had to be constantly adjusted for in camera throughout the day. I screwed up three times that I can see in keeping the changes smooth and consistent. (They can, of course, be cleaned up in post, but why not try and nail it the first time?)

    And oh yeah, doing this in four feet of snow. On a roof. I was in constant fear of my tripod blowing over, the elements freezing in the camera, water from the snow, etc, etc, etc. The camera was wrapped in a scarf, with a ‘hot hands’ chemical heat pack nestled near the battery side, which kept the first battery happy for a good five hours.

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Assuming you used your 7D?

    Usually for a wide shot like this you would want to throw it into Tv (shutter priority) and let the camera try to keep the exposure consistent.

    And since these cameras have no moving parts, there’s no need to wrap it blankets or heat (actually heat is bad for the camera). The 7d has survived trips to Antartica without any problems:
    http://canonfieldreviews.com/7d-1-weather-sealing/

    Of course, if you’re not using the 7d, disregard all that.

  • Avatar Image 8thSamurai said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Yup, I used the 7d. I put one heat pack on the side with the battery, to keep it from draining so fast in the weather. The card overheating was a non issue, as I was recording directly to my laptop.

    That article really sets my mind at ease about the snowy weather though! I purposely bought the ‘pro’ casing rather than the plastic casing for these elements because I’m hard on things and knew I’d be heading into some less than optimal conditions for the rig.

    I was in full manual for this, I’ll move over to shutter priority for the next section in this adventure. Its a much cooler gig than I thought it would be, and learning about windmills is really cool!

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    @8thSamurai said:
    Yup, I used the 7d. I put one heat pack on the side with the battery, to keep it from draining so fast in the weather. The card overheating was a non issue, as I was recording directly to my laptop.

    That article really sets my mind at ease about the snowy weather though! I purposely bought the ‘pro’ casing rather than the plastic casing for these elements because I’m hard on things and knew I’d be heading into some less than optimal conditions for the rig.

    I was in full manual for this, I’ll move over to shutter priority for the next section in this adventure. Its a much cooler gig than I thought it would be, and learning about windmills is really cool!

    Come to think of it… maybe I was wrong about shutter priority… I remember doing cloud timelapses once and I got a pulsating image as the camera compensated for the clouds changing.

    Experiment…

  • Avatar Image 8thSamurai said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    I think manual might be the way to stay for this – a little bit of smoothing out in post and it won’t change. I did have to do a bit of compensation due to changing hours and cloud cover.

  • Avatar Image Pavol Timko said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Isn’t it better to turn on fully manual mode with fixed aperture and shutter speed for this type of photography?

    Also I can see that camera moved on the tripod, either because somebody touched it due to some handling controls, or there was a issue with wind.

  • Avatar Image 8thSamurai said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Hi Pavol! The wind up there was amazing (probably why this farm got a grant to install a windmill). For my own purposes, I’m going to clean up and steady up a bit of this footage – but the client wanted it all clean. I’m just a shooter, and he has an editor in mind. (He’s getting this video plus all of the still frames so he can do whatever he wants.)

    It’s something to think about – deliverables. When you’re not the editor, do you take the time to clean up the footage? Much of this was on tapes, but we’re delivering a hard drive, so the temptation is there.

    Yes, you want to make yourself look as good as possible. But I have no idea what the look and feel of the final product is supposed to be. Giving completely undoctored files will give the editor the most breadth in terms of options, plus (and this is a consideration) we were not being paid to clean up the footage, just shoot and deliver.

    Besides the time lapse, there’s about six or seven hours of raw footage to go through – which turns into at least two days of unpaid work that we were never contracted to do. Would the client be more pleased, or more annoyed about getting footage that was altered?

    I don’t know. For this particular one, it seemed better to err on the side of caution (very experienced producer with a keen eye). Were it direct for a local client, then the answer would be different.

    (And good eye on the movement!)

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Most clients only care if the product looks good. So how much polish time you need to do is really up to you. Can the client see potential in footage or not?

  • Avatar Image Pavol Timko said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    I would probably recommend to edit only a small part of footage and show to the client the potential. He can compare the raw and edited material and see the difference. So you don’t spend 2 days of unpaid work on other hand you decrease risk of rejection just because client can’t recognize the real value. Presentation is important in such cases.

  • Avatar Image 8thSamurai said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    Good points. This is a third party project (I have no direct contact with the client) so I’m just doing exactly what the primary shooter asks for. And I think he can see what’ll work, not work, etc. (In a sense, the primary shooter is the one who’s my client – and I’m giving him exactly what he asked for.)