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My Emily (Short Film)

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Paul Delaney is still in love with his high school crush. It’s been 8 years, and Paul has finally summoned the courage to connect with her through Facebook – but Emily turns out to be entirely different than he could ever imagine.

This group will discuss what went into the production and share information about future screenings of this short film.

Sneak Peak – my company logo (15 posts)

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  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    I didn’t think I would post this but when I rendered it out, I was so excited I couldn’t bare not letting my online pals see it until festival dates… so here it is, my company logo:


    password: myemily

    I would have liked to use my unofficial name that I used before I started it as a business (I toned it down from Creative Insanity to Creative Industries). So I used the business name because that’s what everything is billed under. I wanted something that wasn’t annoyingly smug and self indulgent but still memorable.

    Then I saw the chimp clip and fell in love. And that it was public domain!

    Most importantly – Rufus, my chimp man-servant approves.

    Thoughts? Rufus is open to ideas.

  • Avatar Image Simon Hosick said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    While you need to address your monkey obsession, right now I think your logo needs a bigger, cheesier font.

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    As much as I love monkey videos (hell I even helped you find this one):

    What does the print logo look like? Was that a consideration when you where designed this one?

    I don’t ever remember seeing a live action logo with the possible exception of MGM.

    It seems more like a news/talk show bumper than a logo. The text looks more like a subtitle than a company name.

    I think you made the mistake many designers do, falling in love with a concept and not letting go no matter how hard it is to fit that square peg in a round hole.

    Now With Half The Calories Of Regular Bullshit!
  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    I definitely agree that there needs to be more done to the font – I’ll look into it tomorrow as I’m a bit burned out right now.

    As far as what the print logo is – I’m steering away from it because all that stuff is corporate looking. Narrative is really not what CiMG was intended to do so I think I need a whole new direction in terms of look.

    Hmm… falling in love with a concept…. maybe I’m in a wacky state right now putting in all the finishing touches into the thing that I start making jokes to myself to keep somewhat sane. It’s a very real possibility I’ll give you that.

    There are a lot of live motion logos on TV nowadays – look at the end of TV shows and there’s some bizarre ones out there.

    But I think my reasoning is still sound. I’ve seen so many films with such pretentious logos – the purpose was to throw that whole notion of “bigger than you are” on it’s ear. I’m not entirely original in wanting a nonsensical opening.

    I may be full of it – but I was thinking was this strange opening as a palette cleanser. A WTF moment – Yeah, I’m going to tell you a story… let’s move into Paul’s mind…

    I could design a cool logo, but I think it would lack the personality… hmm… maybe I could combine them.

    Sleep on it and work on it tomorrow (there’s another 4 hours I spend on this film)

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    My Second Draft… this is my website logo:


    password: myemily

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    @Gospel_John said:
    My Second Draft… this is my website logo:

    Much better, although still not sure about the monkey.

    @Gospel_John said:

    As far as what the print logo is – I’m steering away from it because all that stuff is corporate looking. Narrative is really not what CiMG was intended to do so I think I need a whole new direction in terms of look.

    Hmm… falling in love with a concept…. maybe I’m in a wacky state right now putting in all the finishing touches into the thing that I start making jokes to myself to keep somewhat sane. It’s a very real possibility I’ll give you that.

    There are a lot of live motion logos on TV nowadays – look at the end of TV shows and there’s some bizarre ones out there.

    But I think my reasoning is still sound. I’ve seen so many films with such pretentious logos – the purpose was to throw that whole notion of “bigger than you are” on it’s ear. I’m not entirely original in wanting a nonsensical opening.

    I may be full of it – but I was thinking was this strange opening as a palette cleanser. A WTF moment – Yeah, I’m going to tell you a story… let’s move into Paul’s mind…

    I could design a cool logo, but I think it would lack the personality… hmm… maybe I could combine them.

    Sleep on it and work on it tomorrow (there’s another 4 hours I spend on this film)

    So how do you plan on creating that for print? I like nonsensical, I’m just saying it needs to be focused.

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    I think for print, I’ll use everything without the chimps.

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    I love the monkey video and I think what you came up with maybe the best logo I’ve seen for a film like this (which I rate as a serious short).

    The problems I have is looking forward. Are you going to be able to use this low rez stock footage over the long term? Are you going to be able to create marketable branding? One off the worst mistakes in creating a print logo is using a stock image, is this the video equivalent? Is this going to be a strong visual impression for future investors?

    I understand this short is a comedy, but you don’t see 20th Century Fox changing their logo for every genre of film they produce.

    The reason you make a short film like this is so you can use it to move on to bigger things. Don’t ever let that leave your mind as you search for individual short perfection..

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    I hear you on what you’re saying – but you hit on a note that I think has been plaguing me for the length of my relatively short career.

    And that’s “what will investors think”

    It’s a very key question but it’s haunted me to the point where, when I started, I tried to sanitize everything to the point where it became boring. I took a name that I liked (Creative Insanity) and sanitized it for corporate work.

    But looking back I think that was okay – I just wish I pushed a little harder early on to think “artsy” – but all things in their time I suppose.

    As far as will I use this logo again for my next short which (fingers crossed) will be started soon – probably. I will change up the music and mess with the colors. I’ve noticed that Lionsgate does this (their horror films are tinged blood red and their dramas are golden tinged)

    As you said, the reason I make these is to move on to bigger things. CiMG is really only a stop gap – it’s what the insurance is made out to, it’s what I use to pay my taxes. But when I get to something bigger, I’ll need a new company. I know you don’t like stop gaps – probably because you end up mopping up the mess they make when they break… but I need to keep moving or I’ll drown.

    But this conversation has convinced me that I need to put my name in the front. That way they’ll know exactly who was responsible for the film that is to follow.
    (I’ll leave the obvious self deprecating joke out of it in case any investors are reading :))

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    No, no, no… don’t ever change your “product” to try and please investors!!!

    That’s your “shit in the box.” Let me explain….

    The person that taught me how to sell anyways would say… “You could sell shit in the box as long as it had a good wrapping and a you had a nice way of saying what’s inside the box.”

    When I’m talking about logos and such I’m talking about the wrapping. If you try changing your film to appeal to investors you are seriously fucked. The only original thing you have, the only thing of value is your work.

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    Just want to add a little movie quote trivia to the post:

    “Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You’ll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you’ll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press’ll think you’re colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob. ”

    Here’s a hint, it’s fun goddamnit: :P

  • Avatar Image Mike said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    @Gospel_John said:
    I think for print, I’ll use everything without the chimps.

    I’d totally use the chimp! But I’d grab a frame from the stock footage and freeze on it so that it will leave you with a still image you can use as a print logo. Lift the chimp out of the background as well so it will leave you with it’s silhouette, something people would recognize even in B&W. I know a chimp tangled in film stock is something that’ll stick out in my mind.

    Mike Hickey
    Baristo Pictures
  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    @baristopictures said:
    I’d totally use the chimp! But I’d grab a frame from the stock footage and freeze on it so that it will leave you with a still image you can use as a print logo. Lift the chimp out of the background as well so it will leave you with it’s silhouette, something people would recognize even in B&W. I know a chimp tangled in film stock is something that’ll stick out in my mind.

    Thanks Mike, I think I may work on that down the road. Right now just trying to get screeners out the door.

    @Dennis said:
    Just want to add a little movie quote trivia to the post:

    “Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You’ll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you’ll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press’ll think you’re colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob. ”

    Here’s a hint, it’s fun goddamnit: :P

    Are you trying to tell me I should be playing baseball?

  • Avatar Image Dennis said 1 year, 12 months ago:

    @Gospel_John said:
    Are you trying to tell me I should be playing baseball?

    Naturally.

  • Avatar Image John P. Hess said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    @Dennis said:
    The reason you make a short film like this is so you can use it to move on to bigger things. Don’t ever let that leave your mind as you search for individual short perfection..

    It took me a while, but I think I finally get what this means.